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or a 3-way trade w/ NJ and whoever wants The Flop for Kidd.
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Posts: 5742 11/29/2007 1:12 AM Tax Man |
This just in, Bman sucks. Thank you, that is all.
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Posts: 2443 11/29/2007 1:33 AM |
get a clue tax dork. that is soooooo OFN. check the groupie thread.
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Posts: 5489 11/29/2007 9:23 AM Pics or I Wasn't There |
thidwick15 wrote: Varajao doesn't have that much trade value, no way the Cav's get another team's starter or even close to an equal valued trade. But I hear Marbury's available. Hasn't cleveland's brass learned from trying to low ball Boozer that they should just pay some guys what they deserve. On a side note, everyone close their eyes and imagine how impressive the Cav's would be if they kept Boozer. I'm most impressed with Orlando and NO's hot starts, Dwight Howard is a machine and CP3 is the best thing since sliced bread. The Celtics, they're 1 Ray Allen ankle sprain and a Paul Pierce stabbing away from being just another ordinary eastern conference team, though with all the other hot trash in the Atlantic Division, Sam Mitchell still playing with his line-up figuring shit out and Richard Jefferson still hiding in the closet in NJ, boston should still win that division even if they suffer any injuries to their big 3. I still put the Pistons atop the east, then Lebron and those other guys he plays with.  |
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Posts: 4152 11/29/2007 10:09 AM This Space For Rent |
Pay him what he deserves? They offered him 6 million a year reportedly. He wants 10. Danny Ferry even went down to Brazil to meet with him. I don't know
where he gets off thinking he deserves 10 mil. He is worse on offense than Ben Wallace, and that is bad.
Relax for a Delicate Few.
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Posts: 7937 11/29/2007 10:14 AM |
Yeah, the guy isn't worth 9 or 10 million per year. He has some skills that don't reflect on his stats but not enough to get him to that price range.
I'm sure some shitty team would happily pay him that much money but the Cavs shouldn't. They already have enough dead money with Larry Hughes.
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Posts: 4095 11/29/2007 10:46 AM |
didya wrote: Boozer fucked over the Cavs. I don't remember exactly what happened but didn't the team have an option for another year and they declined it so
they could offer him a better contract and he bolted for Utah?
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Posts: 2311 11/29/2007 11:01 AM |
Do any of you know a site to get indivdual game stats from previous seasons?
"And I know, I got to get back home, back where I belong. Feel it coming, got to get where I belong." - Marc (Itsy Bitsy Spider) - nick |
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Posts: 5490 11/29/2007 11:47 AM Pics or I Wasn't There |
GreatNortheast218 wrote: My understanding of what happened to Boozer is that the Cav's thought they could sign him at a discount, and Boozer said he was going to sign with
Cleveland, then Utah came and offered a ton of cash and Cleveland didn't match.
Also, Deron Williams might be one of my favorite NBA players right now. I love watching Utah play.
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Telecasting |
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Posts: 7939 11/29/2007 12:06 PM |
They ripped up Boozer's original rookie contract to "reward" him. He was a 2nd round pick and not making what he really deserved given his stats.
So ripping up his contract made him a restricted free agent. The Cavs claim they did this with an "understanding" that Boozer would sign a long-term
contract right away with them. So Boozer became a restricted free-agent, got a huge offer from the Jazz and the Cavs couldn't match it without going above
the luxury tax, so they lost him.
He would have gotten that big offer the next year had this "side deal" thing next happened. They obviously were hoping to lock him into a 5+ year deal right away and weren't thinking clearly. Maybe that extra year w/ Lebron would have been enough to convince the Cavs he was worth what Utah eventually offered or maybe not. The deal they made to "fix" the situation was actually a very solid move. They traded Tony Battie and a 2nd round pick to Orlando for Drew Gooden and Andy Varajao. Gooden isn't Boozer but he's shown signs of excellent offense and looks like he's improving every year. They would be much worse off if they didn't have either player. Obviously, with Boozer, the Cavs could have put up a much better fight against the Spurs last year. |
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Posts: 5751 11/29/2007 12:15 PM Tax Man |
Deron Williams is a much player than I thought he would in the NBA. He's a stud.
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Posts: 3504 11/29/2007 12:29 PM |
GregG21 wrote: i agree..when he was coming out of illinois i didnt think he was going to be anything special in the NBA.
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b man |
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Posts: 2445 11/29/2007 2:00 PM |
didya wrote: where the hell do you get your information? danny ferry is a class act. he didn't go to brazil to demand varejao sign a contract. he went to talk, but Fegan wasn't there so andy wouldn't talk. Fegan's the one to make people think ferry was demanding something. he's a douche. and it's not that the cavs wouldn't pay boozer....he screwed them, by verbally assuring them (and the fans) he'd stay, and then he left and we couldn't afford him due to the luxury tax like telecasting mentioned. |
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Posts: 365 11/29/2007 10:49 PM |
Watching Celtics/Knicks on TiVo. God, I love the mess Isiah has made of this once proud franchise (score currently 18-37 with 6 remaining in the 2nd).
Marv Albert gleefully gave a 4 minute summary of the Knicks season dating back to last year covering all the bases (Anucha Browne Sanders, bad free agent signings, contract buyouts, Jim Dolan, Marbury bolting the team, Marbury threatening to go public with the dirt he has on Isiah, etc., etc.) that was hilarious if it wasnt so pathetic. |
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Posts: 378 11/30/2007 12:27 AM |
b man wrote: The Cavs can't play victim in the Boozer case...they let him out of his contract early so that they could try to sign him below what his market value
would have been the following year. I think it is funny that the Cavs use the excuse that they had a "verbal agreement" that he would resign when
such an agreement would have clearly been in violation of league rules (Joe Smith - T-Wolves ring a bell?).
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Posts: 2282 11/30/2007 12:28 AM |
the knicks only managed 59 tonight. hahahahahahaha
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Posts: 3514 11/30/2007 12:46 AM |
celtics 104 knicks 59
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They have double the wins as my Sonics. 10 pts in the third, thats brutal.
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b man |
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Posts: 2447 11/30/2007 12:56 AM |
i believe it was more about getting boozer signed long-term.
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Posts: 379 11/30/2007 1:50 AM |
the joe smith thing is pretty similar...only major difference is that in Joe Smith's case they had a written agreement while in Boozers (according to
Cleveland mangement) they had an oral agreement...both would be against the league rules.
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