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eaglecane3		#361	[-]
Posts: 135 Jul 19 12 2:27 PM	Jon solo from Road Outside Columbus was awesome!!! Agreed on The Last Time, awesome solo, great live song! Mr. Moon was terrific. The intro to War Song was awesome, and I too had no idea what song it was going into, at first I was thinking 52-50, but then Marc started singing War Song. And I think the "waking up feeling better than everfine" line is the Souls Aflame version as well, but still the reference is sweet! "There are few things pure in this world anymore, and home is one of the few"
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DKD2115		#362	[-]
Posts: 545 Jul 19 12 2:40 PM	Yep, "everfine" is an original lyric for To Zion Goes I. I'm not sure if I like this one over MSG, gonna have to wait til the DVD comes out and its edited to make my decision. Right now, I like MSG better, but when OAR releases this, the editing and better camera angles could change my mind. I will say Red Rocks definitely has a plus in the horn section though
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LITE14		#363	[-]
Posts: 921 Jul 19 12 5:06 PM	Oh ok I guess it's been too long since I've listened to the Soul's Aflame version, but yeah I thought that was cool. And I think the MSG has the advantage of being filmed by Danny Clinch and the editing and some of the shots were very good. I don't think the editing was super good on the live TV broadcast. Too many times they panned out to the crowd between songs. That almost got on my nerves. I hope the edit is a bit tighter on the DVD release. I think this Red Rocks show has an advantage of better set and what not.
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DKD2115		#364	[-]
Posts: 545 Jul 19 12 6:08 PM	Definitely will be better angles on the DVD release and better sound. When they would show angles from inside the crowd and what not the sound was often distorted and sucked. That definitely will be fixed. In my opinion the MSG and Red Rocks sets were even. What one set is lacking, the other made up for. MSG's 52-50 is the best song on any of their live albums. A huge bonus that Red Rocks doesn't have.
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LITE14		#365	[-]
Posts: 921 Jul 19 12 6:33 PM	I could not agree more. That version of 52-50 is my favorite O.A.R. song of all time. It never fails to send a shiver down my spine. I think I like this set more because of the addition of Evan and Jon and because it's brand new and has a number of songs I'm really enjoying right now. I'm glad the DVD process/turnaround is a much shorter process. July to December is really no time at all. I'm excited to see what the finished product is.
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Jcubson		#366	[-]
Posts: 488 Jul 19 12 7:16 PM	Much much more a far as rarities go for RR. But also all of the newer heavy hitters. 11 songs that were never on a live album before, I'll take RR over MSG everytime
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DKD2115		#367	[-]
Posts: 545 Jul 19 12 7:29 PM	I can't yet really decided which set I like better, but damn, the more I look at that Red Rocks set the more I think how bad ass it was.
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DKD2115		#368	[-]
Posts: 545 Jul 19 12 7:48 PM	Jcubson wrote: Much much more a far as rarities go for RR. But also all of the newer heavy hitters. 11 songs that were never on a live album before, I'll take RR over MSG everytime But you gotta also think that when MSG came out, it had 10 songs that were never on a live album before. And that was out of only 18 songs. Red Rocks did have some really rare ones though. But idk, maybe it's that 52-50 and for some personal reasons but I might like the MSG set better. Gonna have to wait til the DVD is released to make that decision though.
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Jcubson		#369	[-]
Posts: 488 Jul 19 12 8:12 PM	That version of war song is almost as good as MSG 5250. That intro was incredible
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91StealthES		#370	[-]
Posts: 1436 Jul 19 12 8:52 PM	DKD2115 wrote: Definitely will be better angles on the DVD release and better sound. When they would show angles from inside the crowd and what not the sound was often distorted and sucked. That definitely will be fixed. In my opinion the MSG and Red Rocks sets were even. What one set is lacking, the other made up for. MSG's 52-50 is the best song on any of their live albums. A huge bonus that Red Rocks doesn't have. The instrument/vocal sound feed has absolutely nothing with the video feed, so the crowd shots had nothing to do with the change in sound, other than to add the audience noise from that area. The "poor" quality at times is when the camera audience microphone was in front of the stacks. But, I do agree with you, the entire show will be re-mixed before it is released and sound amazing. I don't know who did the live mix, but I would guess they didn't have much exposure to O.A.R. before and I think they did a fantastic job. They had it honed in by the second song. The start wasn't even that bad.
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91StealthES		#371	[-]
Posts: 1436 Jul 19 12 10:49 PM	I just finished watching the recording...Jerry and Richard on Hey Girl when they were synced was a nice touch. Does anyone remember when they used to "battle" back in the day. It would be nice to bring that back.
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DKD2115		#372	[-]
Posts: 545 Jul 19 12 11:03 PM	Jcubson wrote: That version of war song is almost as good as MSG 5250. That intro was incredible I loved the part when Jerry was playin the sax one handed and whatever that was with his right hand
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Jcubson		#373	[-]
Posts: 488 Jul 19 12 11:13 PM	I think he was using some sort of modulation pedal.
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DKD2115		#374	[-]
Posts: 545 Jul 19 12 11:15 PM	91StealthES wrote: DKD2115 wrote: Definitely will be better angles on the DVD release and better sound. When they would show angles from inside the crowd and what not the sound was often distorted and sucked. That definitely will be fixed. In my opinion the MSG and Red Rocks sets were even. What one set is lacking, the other made up for. MSG's 52-50 is the best song on any of their live albums. A huge bonus that Red Rocks doesn't have. The instrument/vocal sound feed has absolutely nothing with the video feed, so the crowd shots had nothing to do with the change in sound, other than to add the audience noise from that area. The "poor" quality at times is when the camera audience microphone was in front of the stacks. That's what talking about. I guess distorted wasn't a good word to use. But theres parts of the video like in Here's To You during the lyric "but this time it's not hazy at all" where they capture sound from the camera that is filming a chick in a black tank top and it doesn't sound good(I guess from being to close to the stacks?). But it really doesn't matter because when they edit it, they obviously wont use that sound Edited 1 time by DKD2115 Jul 19 12 11:18 PM.
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carl247		#375	[-]
Posts: 3371 Jul 20 12 4:29 PM	Jcubson wrote: Much much more a far as rarities go for RR. But also all of the newer heavy hitters. 11 songs that were never on a live album before, I'll take RR over MSG everytime Hell yeah! This show was awesome and hands down the best one I've been to. Red Rocks is unreal, you all must go if you never have. Hell, I'd even go see J Biebs there \|collin\|
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JoeF OAR2		#376	[-]
Posts: 28 Jul 20 12 4:41 PM	LITE14 wrote: Mr. Moon. I went nuts for this one too! It's easily one of my favorites off of IBNT and I love what they've done with it live. Mikel's keys in this song are really beautiful. I was surprised to see no Jerry on this song though. Agreed. Mr Moon sounded really weird without Jerry seeing as how he plays the lead melody in parts
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Sam See	LIVE TV BROADCAST AND DVD FILMING ON JULY 15TH AT RED ROCKS	#377	[-]
Posts: 11229 Jul 20 12 5:20 PM 04/28/2000	I like this iPhone app.
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A Boston Stranger		#378	[-]
Posts: 6105 Jul 20 12 8:05 PM Can't Get A Date	Thanks for the heads up Sam, didn't even know the LMA had an app. ~~Stephen~~
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Sam See		#379	[-]
Posts: 11229 Jul 20 12 10:27 PM 04/28/2000	LMA? Sam C.
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3Jacks2Nines		#380	[-]
Posts: 1219 Jul 21 12 2:48 PM O.A.R.'s BFF	I apologize as I have not read the whole thread... is this being released only as a DVD? Or is there going to be a CD as well? Great show, jealous of those who got to go. Definitely (IMO) played the best new songs off King an great rare ones from a long time ago. Should be a great release Do you ever truly feel, That it's a waste of time to live a day? I mean deep inside have you convinced yourself, There's much more to get out of the way? Well for me, it's that last baby moment before I wake, It bless my soul, caress my heart, Leave me wishing for a brighter day.
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